You Can’t Be That: Civil Rights and the Attempts at Inclusion and Exclusion (updated)

Posted: December 20, 2010 in Uncategorized

(Update I, below)

“Of Liberty I would say that, in the whole plenitude of its existence, is unobstructed action according to our will. But Rightful Liberty is within limits drawn around us by the Equal Rights of others.

Thomas Jefferson

“Surely the day will come when color means nothing more than the skin tone, when religion is seen uniquely as a way to speak one’s soul; when birth places have the weight of a throw of the dice and all men are born free, when understanding breeds love and brotherhood.”

Josephine Baker

“Freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor; it must be demanded by the oppressed.”

Martin Luther King

Humanity had a major steppingstone towards universal human rights this weekend with repeal in the US of its discriminatory policy of “Don’t ask Don’t Tell” (DADT, where service men and women would be “decommissioned”, i.e. thrown out, from the Military due to choices of sexual partners).  But the reactions to this granting of the most basic of civil liberties to all have come under, some decidedly odd, reactions by some members of the community.  Under the Category of “What the World is Up Against” we have:

Bryan Fischer begins his horrid and disjointed lament on the revoking of  DADT with this strange, self-created definition:

“Dictionary definition of “deviant”: “departing from usual or accepted standards, esp. in social or sexual behavior.” “Deviant” is not name calling, it is truth-telling. “

Fisher completes his little thought:

“This isn’t a game, and the military should never be used, as is now being done, for massive social re-engineering. The new Marine motto: “The Few, the Proud, the Sexually Twisted.” Good luck selling that to strong young males who would otherwise love to defend their country. What virile young man wants to serve in a military like that?

If the president and the Democrats wanted to purposely weaken and eventually destroy the United States of America, they could not have picked a more efficient strategy to make it happen.

Rarely can you point to a moment in time when a nation consigned itself to the scrap heap of history. Today, when the Senate normalized sexual perversion in the military, was that moment for the United States. If historians want a fixed marker pointing to the instant the United States sealed its own demise, they just found it.”

John McCain, Senator and former Presidential Candidate also wonders at the damage of tolerance:

“I hope that when we pass this legislation that we will understand that we are doing great damage,” “Today is a very sad day.”

Chaplain Gordon James Klingenschmitt shows off his deep and undying christian compassion:

“A chaplain friend of mine asked God this week, ‘why do you allow evil to grow in America, and open homosexuality to be forced upon our military?’ To which God answered him from Psalm 92:7: ‘When the wicked spring as the grass, and when all the workers of iniquity do flourish; it is so that they shall be destroyed forever.’

“Homosexual sin will always be a stench in the nostrils of Almighty God, an abomination which God condemns and shall punish with everlasting destruction. Even if the Senate had voted 100 to 0 to legalize sin, they could not remove God from His throne of Judgment, before which every knee shall bow, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.”

Peter LaBarbera of Americans for Truth About Homosexuality not to be undone in idiocy:

“If the lame-duck Congress succeeds in ‘gaying down’ our military this weekend, it will take a disastrous leap toward “mainstreaming” deviant, sinful homosexual conduct – not just in the military but in larger society — thus further propelling America’s moral downward spiral.”

Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council lets us know he’s appalled and disturbed:

“Today is a tragic day for our armed forces. The American military exists for only one purpose – to fight and win wars. Yet it has now been hijacked and turned into a tool for imposing on the country a radical social agenda. This may advance the cause of reshaping social attitudes regarding human sexuality, but it will only do harm to the military’s ability to fulfill its mission.”

Regardless of these harbingers of doom, the Repeal of DADT is in step with The Global community which itself has just begun the arduous and necessary trek towards the full and complete civil liberties for all members of the democratic social body.  In July of last year (2009) the largest democracy in the world, India, decriminalized Homosexuality (see the New Delhi High Court Ruling here) making it the 127th state to grant the basic human right to self-determined, consensual relations.

Sermon on the Mount Elisabeth Ohlson Wallin 1998

Denmark in only 1989 became the first modern country to grant legal and comparable legal status to same sex couples.  This was quickly followed by a number of European states and by the other Scandinavian countries in 1996 (with Finland following in 2001).

Recognizing the necessity of granting its citizens civil rights in the most basic sense countries began to pull back on this retrogressive legal value judgment restricting mutually accepting human sexuality and  a number of States began to follow suit: Netherlands grants full civil marriage rights in 2001; New Zealand follows by recognizing civil unions between same sex couples (not full marriage rights however);  Belgium allows same sex marriage in 2003;  Spain gives equal marriage status to gay couples in 2005; Canada legalizes gay marriage in 2005; South Africa accepts consenting adult couples in 2005.  South America sees the first same sex civil union in 2003 and some American counties follow suit, including a smattering of States within the US.  (see a more complete listing of Global Communities which have work towards this here)

Kissing Policemen Blue Noses 2007

India’s neighboring country, Nepal had determined that discrimination against individuals who entered into consenting sexual activities was fundamentally unconstitutional (as it criminalized a person and not an act) and began the obliteration of laws meant to curtail and criminalize constituents of that society.

Nao Bustamante Given over to Want 2008

But before we become too complacent recall that Uganda is set to pass Anti-Gay Legislation which calls for the imprisonment, or even execution, of the participant and imprisonment for those who “know” about the fact and do not report it.  The drafter of this  legislation, Ugandan MP David Bahati , is backed by a Religious group in the US called “the Family” which holds the belief that there is a subversive and secret homosexual agenda along with the (wildly discredited) belief that Homosexuality is a curable disease.  Not exactly Happy Days for the rights of humans.

Here the wondrous Rachel Maddow trying to civilly interview the Anti-Gay Ugandan MP David Bahai


Update I:

After religious fundamentalists have felt compelled to blamed all current natural disasters, and even some human caused ones, on the immoralities and perversions (with people not doing sex as they “say they do” been high on their oddly hyper-obsessive lists) of the modern era (and their god-guy being just as obsessed and pissed about it as they are), it was only a matter of time before this happened:

Cindy Jacobs, brings on her “prophetic intercession “ and lets us know that by repealing Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell we have brought on the en masse dying off of  birds and fish.

How to be delivered from this evil (oh yeah, that’s the name of her book)? Well she knows where to go after stopping those gays, next get rid of “Pokemon cards and Buffy the Vampire Slayer” and naturally “Marilyn Manson and psychic hotlines”.  It’s a war out there and “this nation is under siege”, but luckly she has an army (but it seems to be made up only of Generals): “The ministry, now known as Generals International, was founded as Generals of Intercession.  Intercession is still a major thrust of the ministry as they have “generals” around the world”


  1. maaretta says:

    Yay for the repeal! About time.
    On hte question of allowing gays in the military, here is the brilliant Bill Hicks opinion on that:

    Niced list of what rights gays have in all countries. It’s nice to see that they’re countries Gays can live openly in. Always so upsetting to think of how many countries use the Death Penalty for gays. Ouch! The Taliban regime in Afghanistan was the worst. They buried gays alive. How distasteful as well as unbelievable cruel. Don’t know what rights gays have now in Afghanistan though.

    Yay for Rachel Maddow! How brave of her to do that interview. She was right on!

    • hapstance says:

      Yes the atrocities groups and individuals have to go through just for being who they are (and not bother anybody about it), is definitely horrific.

      And Thanks for the Bill Hicks. He hits it right on the mark which is great, but sad as it was a bit ago in time and things don’t seem to have changed much.

      Once more thanks for the video and keep them coming. Always good to see things I have missed.

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